Hi All. This Blog was born from my dealings with a dodgy car sales company. I hope to raise people's awareness by sharing my story and hopefully others sharing their's about their experiences.
I bought a car from a company called Woolston Car Supermarket in Hampshire which I had a number of issues with. After doing a bit of Google searching I found out that certain individuals involved with this organisation have been involved with, lets just say unscrupulous behaviour in the past. Two names will keep reaccuring on this site and they are Richard Burbage and Stan Rudgley.
These individuals appear to have no concerns about selling death traps to individuals and familes with children. I hope this site raises awarness of these crooks and their other people they drag in to thir dealings and if if stops others from the same plight as mysekf and others who have commented on here it will have achueved something. Hope you find it helpful and if you would like to share your story but do not want to directly post you can email me at sharedodgycarsales@gmail.com.
Below are both limited and trading names of some company's they have been known to use:
Swiftbird Ltd t/a The Van Centre Southampton
Delta Flag Ltd t/a Pro Motors
Stratton Cars
Oakmount Cars
Valley Cars
South Coast Enterprises
Service 4 Life Ltd
The Elite Car Company
Fort Wallington Car Sales
Woolston Car Supermarket Ltd
Hampshire Vehicle Sales
Yours
Dodgy Dodge
172 comments:
Richard burbages wife has an underwear shop in botley mills botley , I am told that he has filled the carpark up with his cars and is operating from there
Richard burbages wife has an underwear shop in botley mills, botley. im told he has filled the carpark with his cars and is operating from there
mgm auto haus sells car near there.
maybe them.
Is there a connection to Martin Messenger and a Lee Hassel.
Martin sells cars or did back of the Mill and Lee is name on the website registration.
Seem sure Manchester is part of bad plot shake off claims against the chain of companies.
http://www.gumtree.com/p/vauxhall/vauxhall-opel-corsa-1.2i-16v-2003my-elegance/1084821112
appears to be trading today on gumtree
I can tell all that Stan Rudgley is trading as TALISMAN car sales Winchester Rd Lower Upham just opposite the Alma Inn(up a dirt track)Went there yesterday looking for a runabout for daughter advertised on his ebay site. Forked out £300 dep with promises of 12mths mot & warrenty etc, came home with an uncanny feeling all was not right.On searching the net found your blog!! Went there today and on confronting him was told in no uncertain terms would not get deposit back.When I contacted police was told it was a civil matter and to get in touch with trading standards which I will do but not holding out much hope. Seems the LEECH stills lives on!!
I can confirm this is where he is. I have forked out £1900 on a car there and on confronting him for a refund was told quite bluntly, NO. I have contacted trading standards and have been told to confront him myself first and to tell them of the outcome whether positive or negative.
I can confirm this is where he is. I have forked out £1900 on a car there and on confronting him for a refund was told quite bluntly, NO. I have contacted trading standards and have been told to confront him myself first and to tell them of the outcome whether positive or negative.
I can confirm this is where he is. I have forked out £1900 on a car there and on confronting him for a refund was told quite bluntly, NO. I have contacted trading standards and have been told to confront him myself first and to tell them of the outcome whether positive or negative.
Richard Burbage
Rouge car saleman and now wife beater!
http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/11675879.Car_dealer_denies_wife_assault_charge/
Cars in Upham
Looks like this lot are trading as Deltaflag LTD t/a Pro Motors - and advertising on Ebay and Gumtree. They recently fleeced a member of my family. Totally untrustworthy and to be avoided at all costs.
Confirmed. It appears that they're still in business under a new guise of Deltaflag LTD t/a Pro Motors as the previous poster has stated. Looking at the company details it appears to be a partner of crime of theirs!
I've posted a comment about this company here:
http://www.cardealerwatchdog.com/delta-flag-ta-pro-motors-southampton-avoid-at-all-costs/
Confirmed now trading as Pro motors.... Avoid these dealers not worth the hassle, fleeced a member of my family under the name of Woolston car supermarket, they tell you what you want to hear and do nothing
AVOID AT ALL COSTS!!!!!!!
Rudley and Burbage arrested, lets hope this time they have come to the end of the road and get what they deserve..... Story on daily echo website.
Bought a car from delta flag Ltd pro motors, payed 3500 for it and it lasted a week. They gave the name of the warranty company and on ringing them they had no knowledge of the car. Now pro motors gave credit card details to pay the fee, which bounced. Now I'm left with a car in the garage that I can't get until the bill is paid thanks to these f#ck wits, stay well clear. If anyone has any suggestions on how I can resolve this it would be much appreciated. Thanks
Bought a car from delta flag Ltd, pro motors. The car cost me £3500 and lasted a week and packed in. Rang the company and they said to get the work done that the warranty will cover it. Now the works done and the company aren't paying up the fees for the repairs, they gave a company that they said the warranty was with but they didn't have the books, then they gave a credit card that bounced and now they are just making up excuses. Now I'm left with a car in the garage and I can't get it without the bill being paid. Stay well clear of these f#ck wits. If anyone has any suggestions to how I can resolve this they would be much appreciated, cheers
Sorry to hear of you situation. You should contact Citizen's Advice as this is what was suggested in The Southern Daily Echo by Trading Standards. Good luck in resolving your issues.
Trading Standards said all consumers with concerns about any vehicle they have purchased are urged to report the matter to the Citizens Advice Consumer Service on 03454 04 05 06 or via the website adviceguide.org.uk
Thank you very much, I have already been in contact with them but I will do the same again as things may have changed now that these criminals have been arrested, your help is much appreciated.
Oh no.
I have just bought a car from them. same story.
I viewed the car and they promised to MOT and do all advisories.
They delivered to me, but they had 'forgotten ' MOT certificate. They promised to bring it round. 2 days later, I rang and they said it was in post, that was a week ago
I just logged on to find email address.
I wonder why these warnings didn't come up before when I tried to check out company prior to purchase
Oh no.
I have just bought a car from them. same story.
I viewed the car and they promised to MOT and do all advisories.
They delivered to me, but they had 'forgotten ' MOT certificate. They promised to bring it round. 2 days later, I rang and they said it was in post, that was a week ago
I just logged on to find email address.
I wonder why these warnings didn't come up before when I tried to check out company prior to purchase
Small Claim Court Misrepresentation claim against both Burbage and Rudgely.
Wait for fraud conviction as that will provide public evidence.
Long queue of claims small pot of apparent money.
Bought a car from them in December 14, they delivered it to us, when they had gone we realised half the documents were missing, contacted them and the usual b*****it, it's been posted, so far all they have sorted is warranty, beginning of February, that was only because I phoned warranties 2000 and asked for policy number, they told me car wasn't registered as having one. KEEP ON AT THEM!!!!
WARRANTY CANCELLED for non payment of proposal!!!!!!! After being told a 12 month warranty was on car, it has now been cancelled. Heard Rudley is no longer working there, Burbage is!!!!! Car door is filling with water every time it rains, where is Rudley?
Rudgley try address listed on eaby for one of trading names of Service 4 Life Ltd.
49 Bryanston Rd
Same story, my son bought a car from them, work not done as agreed, valet no existent, so called service not done, told only do an oil change, air filter was blocked, fuel filter blocked, l had to do another service myself. 12 month warranty but according to Warranty 2000, no recollection. These people are sharks, they don't answer letters or emails or telephone. Oh they promised to reimburse us for work we had to do as vehicle was dangerous (no money) HOW DO WE STOP THIS MAN!!!
Richard Burbage was done for assault - see
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2976098/Car-dealer-rowed-wife-saying-d-meal-went-football-took-KFC.html
Richard Burbage was done for assault - see
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2976098/Car-dealer-rowed-wife-saying-d-meal-went-football-took-KFC.html
Richard Burbage was done for assault - see
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2976098/Car-dealer-rowed-wife-saying-d-meal-went-football-took-KFC.html
Once l got hold of Richard he sorted out the Warranty straight away, now completed.
Thank you
Phil
Phil. You may want to check the validity of it with the Warranty company as I've had communication with individuals which have found out theirs is not valid.
Your right, we just got a letter from Warranty 2000 and policy is cancelled as Delta Flag did not pay for it, l should have known really. I would like to take legal action against them as l think l have a goo enough case, why don't we all get together and fight them?
This was my sons hard earned money and he has been well and truly ripped off by Delta Pro. DON'T USE THESE PEOPLE I am now begining to wonder if the MOT was good, surely the company who did the MOT can be liable?
Glad l found this was going to go there today.
Good. I'm glad you found out before unlike a lot of us. Happy car hunting and stay clear of these crooks.
they are still selling on ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-307-SW-2-0HDi-90-5st-a-c-2005MY-S-/251957069184?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3aa9cfc580
Thanks so much for making this blog - I was thinking about buying a car from deltaflag this week.
Hi. Glad you found this before buying unlike a lot of us unfortunate ones. Hope you find a car soon.
To late for me, waited 6 weeks now for the car to be fixed, the owner said he would repay me the money, yes you guessed it, still waiting. i am now £2600 out of pocket, only the salesman will speak to me the owner has dissapeared after promoises to repay. i have advised they have today to return my cash or i go to trading standards, the echo and all other papers intrested. PLEASE AVOID THIS PLACE YOU WILL GET RIPPED OFF.
You can take to county court through an online application,(under £50) don't make the mistake of naming the company name the individual.
They are obviously arrogant and ether wont respond to the writ or turn up to defend the case so it will automatically be found in your favor.
Wait a week then escalate to the high court for the sheriff of the court to deal with cost £60
they have more power that the police, or bailiffs.
https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money/overview
If you have receipts from Deltaflag Ltd or paid money into Deltaflag Ltd business accounts then you have no claim under the Sales of Goods Act against the people that own the company.
Burabge, Rudgely and Warren all know they claims will not stick and even when the law catches up with them they will declare bankrupt. Read Burbage's bleating in court as reported in the Daily Echo.
Plenty of claims failed against Hampshire Vehicle Sales and Woolston Car Supermarket.
make your county court to the individual and name them in the writ not the company. as they are a director you are allowed, if you name the company they will just down it that is why they think they keep getting away with it.
http://www.lawpack.co.uk/business/money/articles/article1715.asp
If the car was sold to you by a limited company then the directors liability is LIMITED.
Seems that someone is very keen that no claims are made against DeltaFlag Ltd.
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Law/Civil/Question1287318.html
My concern is all the comments and problems but Ebay and Gumtree still seem to be letting them advertise, surely they know what is going on, and surely they should not be accepting adverts, l guess all Ebay are interested in is making money not protecting suckers like us. These con men seem to get away with everything. Our car has now gone ot the great scrapyard in the sky, £2000+ worse off.
I found their advert on gumtree, was just about to dial their number then thought better of it and tried googling their name. Glad I did...
http://www.gumtree.com/p/ford/ford-fiesta-1.6-2006.5my-ghia/1126455643
Hi. Glad you found this before purchasing from these guys. Hope you find a car soon from a legitimate car dealer.
Thank you for your site, currently looking at replacing our car, Deltaflag ltd t/a Promotors have just the model we are seeking, having read this we shall not be visiting them. Thank you for saving us.
Glad you found it before buying from these guys. This is the main reason I set this blog up so am happy it'should saving some from being caught by them. Hope you find the car you're looking for.
After being ripped off by these and setting this blog up I and few others who started talking to each other we started to report adverts on autotrader, gumtree, and eBay. We had some success but once they set under a new company name they could start again. Sorry to hear you were caught out like so many of us.
Who ever put my address on here for contact of delta flag this is a lie. Mr Darryl Warren used my address as his company has left me with lots of upset customers to contact. He lives in Southampton with his girlfriend she knows all he does. He has taken out loans for the business at my address.
Mr Warren runs Delta flag is ruthless and I do hope he gets what is coming to him. I will happily help bring him down after all he is putting myself and my family through and to help anyone that has put trust in this low life!
Dodgy Dave remove my address please Mr Warren does not reside at this address just myself, my children and my partner. If addresses are needed to find Mr Warren I will happily provide to trading standards the police and anybody else. Thank you
Hi all. I'm happy to remove any personal addresses that are not linked to either Darryl, Stan or indeed Richard. However if an address iso a business address of these crooks and are in the public domain they will remain to stop others from being ripped off by these crooks. One way to do this is to try to stop their adverts being seen. When I was initially scamed by them a group of us reported every advert we could find on auto trader, gum tree and eBay. Also I was hoping to use monies gain from the adverts I have recently added to this blog to advertise on other sites. Unfortunately in order for me withdraw any monies from the advertisement account for this I need to reach the withdrawal limit which I'm nowhere near. So if you find something useful or of interest on the links please use them and once I reach the limit I will withdraw and buy advertisement myself for this blog. Please spread the word about the blog and let's stop these numpties from trading.
^^^ oh my god dee! Give it up love! He lives with his girlfriend in southampton?!His girlfriend knows all he's doing?! He's ruthless?! Runs everything?! More LIES! So YOUR address was listed so you thought you'd be a spiteful, vindictive cow and plaster MINE everywhere. You are so sad. Seriously get a life before I get a solicitor
Hi all,
Please can you confirm that Pro Cars in Swannick lane in SOuthampton is the same company as Delta Flag?? I'm due to look (buy??) a nice car they have advertised on ebay.... please advise. Thanks.
Regards
Two different companies.
https://companycheck.co.uk/company/05769982/PRO-CARS-SOUTHAMPTON-LIMITED/summary.
And the crooks:
https://companycheck.co.uk/company/09282467/DELTAFLAG-LIMITED/summary
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, if only I had some, then I wouldn’t have the same tale of woe as every one else. These arseoles owe me money for tax that wasn’t paid, I had to register vehicle, and no warranty forth coming, and given the run around and bullshit and lies before the realisation of the situation dawned on me, then I discovered this blog, horse and stable door springs to mind,
Can anyone explain to me how these pair of c**ts can continually do what they do and continually get away with it the laws an ass that’s for sure
These guys are STILL trading. have just been conned by them. We paid for our car, but there has been no delivery, they don't pick up calls and have messed us around saying the car is in the garage/on its way/in garage again. Paperwork is dodgy. I have written a letter to them for a full refund, and will be taking matters to trading standards. These guys need to cease trading and be prosecuted.
Does anyone have info about where they are currently selling from? I was ripped off by those sick bastards a few months ago and I want to apply for bailiffs but I can't proceed with my claim until I have their new address. Can anyone help please? They obviously moved since I bought a car from them I feel hopeless please help...
Ebay and gumtree should provide addresses if you need such details to progress a claim.
If they refuse then report to ico.org.uk.
There is a chance then, if ico rule that the address should have been provided, to claim against ebay/gumtree for losses.
At some point Trading Standards will prosecute (?) then addresses wil be public.
Trading addresses are on fb.com .Links on this blog.
If you did a bank transfer/online banking or used a credit card or debit card for payment, you might also be protected under Section 75 via means of Chargeback or Transaction Dispute Procedure. Your bank or Credit company might ask for a police reference or trading standards reference. Or you might need to write to them with proof of misconduct.
I hope this helps someone.
They seem to have taken off all thier cars from Gumtree. (I did report a few) and have not been listing on Ebay for a couple of days.
Anon - 24th October 2015
I seem to have 2 address which they provided. One on an invoice and one for a 'showroom'. About 4 miles from each other. Not sure if I can provide full adresses on here.
but this it thier Ebay link which has an address on it.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252138347541
Both addresses (on their website and on ebay) are not correct. They moved to some shit hole a while ago and when you call them they give you a postcode that leads you to the middle of nowhere...I reported to Trading Standards and all they do they 'collect information' which leads me nowhere and I can't proceed with my claim because I haven't got the damn address! It's been going like this for 6 MONTHS and I'm sick and tired of it and I don't think I am gonna get any money back but if anyone knows where they are please please share it here.
Is this them?
http://deltaflag-ltd-ta-pro-motors.ebaymp.co.uk/
Was going to take my sister to look at getting her first family car from there tomorrow :/
Yes its them. Glad you found this before buying from these crooks.
Yes its them. Glad you found this before buying from these crooks.
PRO CARS (SOUTHAMPTON) LTD is a completely separate company from DELTAFLAG etc etc. None of its directors or staff have ever worked for or with ANY director or member of staff of DELTAFLAG Ltd or its associated companies. Please check my company out on the internet or phone trading standards dept for clarification. We have contacted Ebay and Gumtree lots of times to report threats of violence/verbal abuse that my staff have received over the phone by disgruntled clients of DELTAFLAG LTD but neither company has taken any action..... absolute disgrace!! Paul Osmond Managing Director
Hi Paul. Thanks for your comment. I fully agree with your statement and have put on this blog that your company is totally different to the crooks this site is about and will look to indicate this again moving forward. It's such a shame a shame a legitimate business such as yours has been caught in this.
http://deltaflag-ltd-ta-pro-motors.ebaymp.co.uk
scammers website
URGENT - OK everyone - these cowboys are planning to stop trading and have applied to Companies' House for a DS01 (Proposal to Strike Off) which means than none of us will have any chance of recovering our money after 17th January 2016. It is essential that we all contact Companies' House enquiries@companieshouse.gov.uk quoting Delta Flag Ltd company number 09282467 objecting to their proposal to strike off on the grounds that you are owed money and providing as much evidence as possible. Given that Stan, Darren and Richard are clearly unscrupulous past-masters at this and will pop up again trading under yet another different name, anything we can do to, at least, slow them down from ripping off anyone else has to be worth trying.
https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-limited-company need to use this site to object
The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay.
User ID Effective Date End Date
promotors2014 29-Nov-14 Present
darryl*2011 11-Jan-11 29-Nov-14
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09282467/filing-history
Thanks for the info yesterday guys. I hope this helps a few people out.
It is likely they will pop up again. It will be interesting to see who will be used as the Director for this new venture. It's probably out of the question it will will Richard (Dick) Burbage or indeed Stan (the conman) Rudgley so Wichling poor low level criminal will be sold the opportunity of making loads of money selling cars this time.
They are now near Walberton West Sussex?
Try Pound Road, The Meadows or The Street. Good chance one of these is now home for a crook.
Perhaps Dairy Lane .
http://deltaflag-ltd-ta-pro-motors.ebaymp.co.uk/ is now offline. Does anyone know if they are selling on-line under a different name yet?
Looks like Motors team on Ebay have pulled showroom.
So now selling as "person" not a limited company. Cars still on.
Keep asking ebay to pull the promotors2014 account.
Details from Ebay
darryl warren
Winchester Road
SOUTHAMPTON
Hampshire
SO321HJ
United Kingdom
Phone:01489 860585
Email:deltaflagltd@outlook.com
VAT number: UK 198 9403 50
http://deltaflag-ltd.ebaymp.co.uk back slightly different name
Their listings and cars still appear on Ebay.
This is Paul from PRO cars (Southampton) Ltd, we have had no fresh enquiries or indeed threats in the past 2 weeks from any clients of Deltaflag Ltd. It appears they have disappeared from view. If I hear anything within the motor trade of their whereabouts I will post details immediately. I fully agree with the proposed action being taken by clients of these people and hope sincerely you all get compensation due. Regards Paul
Hi Paul glad to hear you've had no further grief due to these individuals and hope this continues.
email motorsteam@ebay.com
Asking why limited company that is in processing of closing is allowed to advertise?
Current ebay details: These changed over Friday and had the showroom on ebay pulled. The dodgy lot changed their traders account so need to complain about deltaflag-ltd.ebaymp.co.uk.
Deltaflag LTD t/a Pro Motors
darryl warren
Winchester Road
SOUTHAMPTON
Hampshire
SO321HJ
United Kingdom
Phone:01489 860585
Email:dwarren82@live.co.uk
VAT number: UK 198 9403 50
Have manged to avoid dealing with these people due to this site, thankfully. I noticed that there is a trader now advertising on eBay just up the road in the same village, Upham, called Swiftbird / trading as The Van Centre. May be no connection but would pay to check before having any dealings
Further to post at 10.52, have checked on Companies House, Richard Burbage is a director of Swiftbird Ltd (trading as The Van Centre on eBay). To be avoided at all costs then.
Direct address is
Simba Farm
Portsmouth Road
Colden Common
Southampton
So507HF.
Our no is 02381 782424
Google Maps lists the above as AG Quads. Postcode SO32 1HJ (on their Ebay listings) comes up as Kmautos and if you use Google Earth you can see the rough yard and outbuildings that are in the background of the pictures they`re listing their cars with. There are a lot of cars at that site too.
http://shareaboutdodgycarsales.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/name-change-alert.html
I read this thread with interest as I'm looking for a new car currently.
Can I just confirm that these guys - http://www.procars.co.uk.razsor.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars - are legit?
Thanks!
Hi. Pro Cars are not linked to these guys. In fact they have been given unwarranted grief from from disgruntled customers who have thought they are the same company. So just to confirm Pro Cars is NOT part of Pro Motors or Swift bird Ltd ta The Van Centre Southampton as they are now know. Good luck in finding a car.
Walberton, West Sussex is where they are. S
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/promotors2014/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
Steer WELL clear!
Reported Deltaflag/ Promotors to Ebay last night 08/12/15 when they had 27 cars advertised for sale.
Today, NOW they have 30 cars advertised for sale:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/promotors2014/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
Ebay were attrocious to deal with, even trying to contact them direct was an absolute nightmare and when I did eventually get to speak to a real person they were difficult to understand and failed to understand my concerns about promotors2014.
Hi, my sympathies to everyone who as been scammed by these absolute low lifes, unfortunately I am another victim and still kicking myself for it.
Please note that that Deltaflag's request to strike off the company has been suspended so they are no longer allowed to wind up on 17/01. Anybody who has been scammed should advise Companies House and this will help ensure the company cannot be struck off whilst action is continuing against them.
Companies House
tel: 0303 1234 500
email: enquiries@companies-house.gov.uk
You can contact Trading Standards who will help you with the legal process in taking them to court:-
Trading Standards
tel: 0345 4 040506
And make sure you also report it to:-
City of London Fraud Dept
0300 1232 040
Please also note that the registered office of the company is
Deltaflag Ltd
Communications House
Moston Lane
Manchester
M40 9WB
All correspondence should go to this address in addition to the trading address already stated in the posts above.
Good luck to all.
I suggest you contact Northampton bulk county court online and speak with the high court sherriffs and they will help from ex debt collector and investigator
too late for us, we have just been scammed for £4000 by this bunch of low-lives. Was
always told the van we paid cash for had been fixed - due to a long list of defaults and would be delivered to us - surprise surprise never turned up after being promised delivery on 5 occasions, never get a call back or explanation
We live a 3 hour drive away so it has been difficult to hunt them down. Very grateful for the latest information and will be taking action through the courts and trading standards -
although not holding my breath we will get money back - they must owe so much.
why cant they be stopped ??????
Hi all.
Swift bird Ltd ta The Van Centre Southampton just ripped of a friend of mine too.
He paid cash to one of the little rats to Tax the Vehicle on site, this was independently witnessed. Later I checked with the DVLA, not only no Tax, but no MOT as well. Told them to sort it or as this is Criminal matter under the Theft act, obtaining money by deception (section 15A of the Theft Act 1968) Southampton police will be informed.
It breaks my heart that these c*nts are still trading. My son lost the money he was given by my parents for his 21st by buying a car with a "warranty" which just didn't exist when the car, which had allegedly been serviced, broke down beyond economic repair. Avoid these fucking cowboys at all costs.
I have been scammed by these a--- holes too just last week, they sold me a car with apparently 12 months MOT FSH MOT and oil change having been done the same day as they delivered it. He was supposed to be at mine for 5 o'clock and turned up at 9pm saying he had got lost. Parked the delivered car at the end of my car park pressed up against a wooden fence. The car had a smashed rear window and the bonnet was broken for which I had confirmed that the car neither had a oil change or an MOT. I called them the following morning to say I was not happy with the car, asked to please have my (part exchange) car back and cancel the deal to which they replied that the window must have been broken at my house and that my car had broken down on the return journey and they didn't know where it was (total shit). They offered to fix the window but with all the other doubts I refused. Basically they refused to go back on the deal so I said I was on my way to Southampton to have this out face to face. On the drive down when I got on the motorway the car started to swerve violently so I reduced speed, left the motorway and headed for the nearest police station. They suggested going to a nearby MOT station and get Fe car retested. Needless to say the car failed its MOT and they recommended not driving the vehicle, what's more the mileage had been tampered with and they had knocked more than 100,000 miles off the clock. From the MOT centre I drove to the address stated on the website and all I could find where farms that had not recollection of swiftbird or the van centre. I have since managed to track down the ex owner of the car who confirmed the the car had been stolen and vandalized hence the broken window. The car was then sold to these low lives for scrap. I have now reported this to the police and also contacted Trading Standards who have showed great interest and have asked for an official statement. I suggest that anyone who had had problems with this guy and have not had a response from trading standards or simply not contacted them to do so now. I would also like to suggest us all getting together to go against these a--- holes. Strength in numbers !!!!
The next communication was, "we will pay the money we owe you, if you remove your comment" Well the comment remains, and trust me, we will get £220 you owe, one way or another! Check your new Facebook/Twitter Accounts. Stay away from these rouges.
Sorry I can't find other posts from Unique Electronics but sounds like you have touched a nerve, can you please explain how you did it, theses guys need to be stopped one way or another
Following on from my earlier comment, as it goes the Vehicle was not a rotter, and pretty good, passed its MOT, and now worth more than the price paid. I will let you know if a refund is paid on the Tax, and price of the MOT which should have been included.
Well done. You must be lucky customer that I've been looking for for the last 2 year's or more. May be they're not that bad. Ha ha.
Yes it is them, I was done over by them a couple of weeks ago
This is the address I have and I have had it investigated and they are definitely trading vehicles from here.
Simba Farm
Portsmouth Road
Colden Common
Southampton
So507HF.
I have been told by trading standards that the above address is just a virtual address.
I was told to remove my comment calling them crooks or I wont see my money...well low and behold no refund and now they are refusing to take my calls. I have today received a copy of my official sratement to sign and send back to Trading Standards, Hampshire Police are also involved and it has also been reported to Action Fraud run by the Metropolitan Police. He also tried reselling the vehicle that he is 'Buying Back' from me on eBay. The address on their website is incorrect. Hes trading from Simba Farm and the yard looks like a scrappies.
Sorry to hear your plight. Unfortunately these scammers/crooks/con artists/low lives have no limits and are more than content ripping people off selling their death trapped cars. This blog has recieved a high number of comments and complaints and if we all get on to eBay and report each and every single advert they have live we can try to get them kciked off the site. It will take everyone reading this to do it in order for this to happen. I'm sure a lot of their business comes from eBay so let's get reporting all?
New ebay address
Yapton Lane
Yapton
West Sussex
BN18 0AS
Ties in with Dick's move to Walberton
Time to report them to Trading Standards in West Sussex?
DODGY GITS?
selling vans for sale else-where check out the hoardings in background of these listings
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172088937608
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172079804142
Their new trading name is Swift Bird ltd t/a Just Vans and 4x4's, Portsmouth.
After buying my car in Dec 14, reporting these scumbags/crooks to Trading Standards in Jan 15, signing statement and sending it back to trading standards, I am still waiting for these people to get what they deserve. I have now found out that the car I bought is a CAT D write off, other point not told when buying vehicle, which they should have done. Come on guys, how do we stop these people? One day someone will die in one of these vehicles they are selling as they don't care what happens so long as they get the money. Does it have to come to that before they are stopped?????
That is exactly my thoughts and exactly what I told the police after trying to get the car back to them and having to come off the motorway because the car was too dangerous to drive. Perhaps if I had killed myself then the police might have shown interest. I really don't understand the laws in the UK. I still say lets all get together !!!!
Good move is to report to ebay. Links on here proving selling vehicles not located where they are registered to trade. Looks like they are 'nicking' listings and posting them as their goods. Ebay has shut them down once as Pro-Motors until they sorted out the problems with breaking ebay rules.
As now in West Sussex worth dropping Trading Standards there a complaint.
I know these pair of scabs, alien head rick the dick and his fat partner stanley (laurel) move from place to place ripping people off with dodgy motors and when you argue for your money back for your car richard gets on the phone acting how tough he is and that his father was an hard case back in the day, hes addicted to cocaine and needs to rip people off the feed his addiction, his main targets are female old or pregnant his a bonus as he sees them as defenless pray, these scabs will get whats coming to them..
alien head burbage and his fat side kick stan rudgley, will get whats coming to them, these scabs are ripping everyone off especially easy prey like (pregnant women and poor old folk), who they know are not really people who will fightback as much, i hope the pair dont reach there 50th birthdays.
What a bunch of ****. I transfered 2K to the through bank transfer. they have never issued me a receipt, and for the last 2 days have promised and failed to deliver my car. (claiming engine management light came on and they would sort it out before they let me have it. Very clever and convincing on the phone but now finding this website i think they have claimed another victim.
** any ideas what to do next would be appreiated but not holding out much hope
Sorry to hear you've joined our club. I had trading standards round yesterday for almost 3 hours and they certainly seem interested in this story and are closing in on them. Get in touch with them as soon as possible and report them.
I am still waiting for Trading Standards to get these low life bastards, 14 months on from reporting it and I've heard nothing. When the day comes and they get what they deserve I want to be there, they are scum and deserve to have the book thrown at them. We bought a car in good faith and what do we get in return, lies, lies and more lies. NO WARRANTY, NO SERVICE HISTORY, 3 PERISHED TYRES, and a load of bullshit from them. Where are they now???????
I am sorry to read the above posts - was planning on viewing a van this coming weekend, I shall now cancel that for sure!
Good to see you found this site first and happy car hunting away from these crooks
Good to see you found this site first and happy car hunting away from these crooks
Just been searching for these low lifes on net, came across a few different names,
Swiftbird Ltd
Swiftbird t/a Just vans and 4x4's
Swiftbird Ltd t/a West Sussex car company
Swiftbird t/a The Van Centre
3 of these names came up on same web page. Also as mentioned in another comment these people are in Yapton Lane, Yapton, West Sussex, BN18 0AS. Check this address out before you buy from them, don't fall into same trap as a lot of others have.
this wont get your cash back but maybe eventually get them a prison sentence report your dealings to action fraud which is run by the metropolitan police and when you get on there site go to online shopping fraud if you made a deal with this crowd through the internet this is where to report it. The met collate all these cases and gather evidence so that culprits can be taken to court. It takes a while to complete the online form and be sure to have all your information to hand as form will time out if you leave it to long and you would have to start from scratch, good luck
I have just looked at swiftbirds latest online garage linked to ebay most of the registration numbers are blanked out but the ones you can read when you check the details they give with the dvla check mot history where you only need the vehicle make and reg number is showing that the mileages they advertise are way below the last mot mileage one van had not had an mot for 3 years suggesting scrap. How are the police not inspecting these vehicles which are obviously not right. I also suspect the ones that are blanked out they do not have but have found the photos on the internet and are purporting to have these for sale and then scamming whoever offers to buy them
When I contacted companies house they said that there was no such limited company. This was in any of the guises they had used. I had looked myself & couldn't see anything relating to them on the official list. I'm currently trying to get iver £5000 back from Darryl Warren. He & his associates are unscrupulous. I need his actual address so I can serve him via the court writ I have. The address they gave me has new houses being built on it! Can anyone help?
Why are these people still trading and being allowed to rip people of I got ripped of by them nearly a year ago i have reported them to trading standards spent 3 hours with trading standards making a report and reported them to the police after receiving threatening phone calls from them there must be enough evidence against for then to be re arrested and hopefully jailed before one of the dangerous cars kills someone.
Im sick and tired of waiting for these low life bastards to be arrested for what they are doing to decent hardworking people, I reported them 14 months ago to Trading Standards and still no action, they are still ripping people off. Reported them to ebay, what a waste of time that was. I have checked MOT history on some of the vehicles they are selling and as one of the above comments said, some cars haven't had MOTs for a few years, the mileage is higher than stated on the adverts. I had to sell my car at a loss recently because I just found out it was a Cat D write off after 15mths of driving it round.
Thanks guys, am searching for a reliable car for about £2k, messaged swiftltd on eBay last night about a couple of their cars. Just got up to google where I'm going and your website popped up!
Looks like you've saved me from a wasted trip & a dodgy car!
Swiftbird Ltd Arundel? Is this these pair of clowns too all over gumtree?
Richard burbage and stan were arrested on Tuesday 10th may 2016 and there homes searched
This is the best news ever, I hope someone takes a liking to them whilst behind bars
Currently seeking legal advice after spending thousands on a car that was never delivered. When I confronted him for the car or my money back, I was told it was nothing to do with him (Richard Burbage)
Car bought from
Yapton lane, yapton, West Sussex under "swift bird" name.
Please don't buy a car from these people.
That's them!
They currently owe me £3k! Keep away!
these scumbags still owe me £2600! Dropped the van off to be fixed and they never returned it. Do not be taken in by these fraudsters. They make their living by ripping off families and small businesses. If anyone has anymore details regarding their arrest this May I'd be pleased to know as I'd like to sit in the gallery in court and watch them go down.
They owe me £5000.
Do we know there addresses
TRAVELLED 100 MILES TO PX MY CAR LOVELY CITREON, WHEN THE CAR ARRIVED UN ROADWORTHY
WE HAD ALREADY DONE THE DEAL.THEY WOULD NOT REPAY MONEY.POLICE WERE NOT INTERESTED.HAD THREATS OVER PHONE FROM BALDY.
YEAH GOOD IDEA FROM SOMEONE LETS ALL GET TOGETHER AND VISIT THEM.
My granddad went three times to visit this place, after arranging times no one turned up. Thank god!! They are in yapton west sussex. I had a phone call from my brother about half an hour ago asking for there number. Luckily I saw this blog underneath and had a quick flick through. Cant believe what I am seeing!! so glad I have read this. My granddad or brother wont be going anywhere near that place.
What is sad is my granddad had this happen to him about 4 years ago on ebay, conned him out of 5k and to think he was so close to having done again :(
Hi. Glad you found this in time. That was the reasoning behind it and I wish your grandad luck finding a new car and stay away form these crooks.
Just looked at the piles of sh@t they are selling online why are there so many with 0 miles?
Just want to say thank you to the creator of this site. I Googled Swift Cars Ltd as saw they were known Gumtree and found this site. Saved me a potential wasted trip to Arundel and a lot of cash judging from other people's experiences! Cudos and hope others have the sense to research traders.
Hi. You're welcome and this was the reason for the site in the first place. It's good to know the site is being found by people like yourself. Happy car hunting and stay away from crooks like this.
It's great to see the number of personal and public comments and emails I receive from people who have found this site. I'd be interested to know how much money it's stopped going in to Burbage and Rudgley's pockets the pair weak excuses for human beings that they are.
Hi just to say thanks I was going down tomorrow to see a van that I saw on gumtree but after reading everyone's comments I will stay well clear and keep on looking.
Me too... Saw a decent van on gumtree. Luckily searched for Swiftbird (to see if they had any more good stuff!) and found this site. Thanks a lot
So glad i found you guys, what a stroke of luck,thanks. I was heading there tomorrow to look at a few. I am still going there as i live near, however its only window shopping to see what car suits me best, but i aint parting with nothing. Thanks again.
These two are now operating out of the Victory Business Centre, Fratton in Portsmouth under the name of Imperial Services Retail Ltd. Looks like they've moved into the vacuum cleaner distributing world!
Does anyone know what is happening with regards to court proceedings relating to these tossers especially Burbage and Rudgley? Nearly two years on from my statement to trading standards, talk about slow going, it's simple these knobheads are guilty as hell and need locking up. Any information appreciated.
Great info.
For current information on one Court case:
See http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/15237412.Father_tells_court_how_car_dealer_ripped_him_off/
I will be letting beth.sharp@dailyecho.co.uk know about this website.
In court now.
In total there are 37 people to give evidence against the bastards. I really can't see how they can get away with it this time
Sorry for delay in authorising your comments. Email for this account had an issue so wasn't receiving them. Not sure where we're up to with these low lives at the minute. Are they still free?
Court case is still in progress, the prosecution have finished and now it's the defence turn. Can't take much longer
By the way Rudgley has pleaded guilty
Thanks for the update.
Jury are in the process of deliberating their verdict
Australian authorities won't be pursuing Burbage for the £6mill he ripped off the Australians. He got away with the money and won't spend a day in prison for crimes committed in Australia. Information from Worrell's (Receivers in webuyanycar.come. au investigation) website.
Burbage guilty on all counts and held on remand till sentencing in July and warren and Overton not guilty
What were they sentenced to? Was it 3years?
No they got 6 years
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